we are tyco integrated security. and we are sharper. ♪ john: in wisconsin two years ago governor walker resisted the demands of those protesters and eventually won at the polls. collective bargaining with things like health insurance. they took away the union's ability to force teachers to pay dues. what has happened since? good things, says kyle olson new rise the educaon action group which is following what has been happening. so what happens? >> well, we have seen joyce expand, competition expand. we have seen union drop dramatically. the teachers' union has lost 30 percent of their members. other puic-sector unions have lost 60 percent of the members. so what is interesting is when you actually give teachers and public employees a choice, they opt out. john: so before they had to join, the same way i had to join my stupid union here in new york before i came to fox when i worked for abc. mandatory union. everyone has to join. now it is the individual teachers joyce. >> that's right. they can opt out. if it was